The Foundation: Fitness & Nutrition for Evolved Pros — with Carson Teagarden

“Diets are bullshit. Fitness isn't something that you try — it becomes a lifestyle.”

George Leith

“You don't get a six-pack the first day of training. It's that consistency.”

Carson Teagarden

“If you have too many goals, there's too much going on, and you can't do anything.”

Carson Teagarden

“As much as it's what you're doing, it's what you're not doing that leads to success.”

George Leith

“The day you miss because you're a little tired — those days add up.”

Carson Teagarden

“Once they hit three, six months, they've got the momentum — and they love the process.”

Carson Teagarden

“I don't want to be 40 with all this pain. I think longevity — at 80 I want to be able to run.”

Carson Teagarden

“Is that cookie even worth it? To burn it takes me two, three miles of running.”

Carson Teagarden

“If you're not prepared to share that you're on a journey, I don't know how serious you are about it.”

George Leith

George Leith: Conversations with the operators, founders, and leaders doing the slow, hard, beautiful work of becoming who you always knew you could be. I'm George Leith. Let's get to work Carson, thanks for joining us on the show. We met the other night, but we've both known Dennis for a period of time, and I'd love to get a bit of your background before we get into some... I've got some questions that I really need to ask. So let's get your background first.

Carson Teagarden: Yeah. So a little bit of my background is starting in middle school to high school, you know, I was that small, skinny, weak kid, um, and I was trying to figure out how can I get stronger, and I needed to get stronger for sports. So that's what first got me into the gym kinda working out. Um, eh, I didn't love it. It was just kinda like, "Oh, I'm in the gym. I, I don't know what I'm doing, just lifting with the team." And I started doing some research. You know, I wanted to still get stronger. How can I make it fun? And that's where I found, like, calisthenics. And from there, throughout high school, it was just learning how can I better my physique? How... People started asking me, "Hey, how are you, how are you doing this? W- how did you get that six-pack? How are you s- like doing handstands?" And I just enjoyed it, loved it. So it was studying how to work out more, studying how to grow my muscles, the diet, nutrition, and just everything. So for now, seven years, constantly every day waking up just figuring out how can I make sure I, I'm doing not only health, mindset- fitness to be the best of my ability. And so that's a little bit of the background, been able to build a coaching business and social media all around that as well.

George Leith: So we'll get into those components of the coaching and the social media, but, you know, I, I think Dennis has given you a little bit of my background and, um, there are individuals that hopefully will watch this show and are maybe inspired to get into a fitness regime. Um, and I, you know, there's a few things that I learned very early on. First off, diets are bullshit. Um, fitness isn't something that you try, it becomes a lifestyle. Um, what are some, what are some components or, or advice or steps that you would give to somebody so that they can take that first couple of steps and get moving on a journey of taking care of this machine that we have, because then it impacts all the other parts of your life.

Carson Teagarden: 100%. Yeah, I mean, with working with a lot of clients from different ages to people who wanna gain weight or lose weight, the first thing is we have to like, how can we be consistent? Because if you can't do something every day, then you're, you're not gonna be able to actually see results. You, you don't get a six-pack in the first day of training. It's that consistency. So that's why when I first started working out, you know, I liked it, but it wasn't something I would be doing seven years and feel like, "Oh, it's already been seven years." So when I did find that calisthenics and kinda that niche of fitness, 'cause there's so many different types of working out, you could go running and biking if you like doing that cardio. If you wanna build muscle and you like to work out and be in the gym, then that's, you know, find what you like and you'll be consistent and actually see those results. So that's the first thing is just how can you enjoy what you're doing through your fitness.

George Leith: So I have a question for you because it's pretty obvious that, you know, you're in phenomenal shape and it's your passion and it's your career and it's the way that you, you know, you pay for your lifestyle and those kinds of things. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure that not every day you want to go work out.

Carson Teagarden: Yeah. I, I would agree with that, yeah. Not every day is a, "Hey, I'm so excited. I feel good to get up." You know? I'm, I'm tired some days or I'm busy or, you know, there's something going on where I, I don't wanna necessarily go eat, eat right. I wanna eat that cake or, you know, don't need, wanna go to the gym 'cause I'm so tired, for sure.

George Leith: So I think for our audience, understanding that even an individual like you, your entire career is built around this and your lifestyle's built around it, you're going to have days that you don't wanna do it, and that's okay.

Carson Teagarden: For sure.

George Leith: Um, and then what are some tips to build it into a habit? Where now it's like when you don't do it, you're like, "Ugh, I gotta get back at it." Like, you feel that you didn't do it, so now you don't have... So what are some tips?

Carson Teagarden: I think the biggest thing that I've seen is, like, my goals. If my goal is to, I w- I wanna have that six-pack, and I wanna feel good, and I wanna look good, there's so many things that build on this goal. So that day when I don't wanna go to the gym or I don't wanna work out, I still get up and do it because I have everything pushing me to get it in the... instead of just like, "I don't wanna do it." I'm like, "I've already seen progress. I wanna keep seeing progress. I feel good doing this." I know when I... You know, after doing it for so many years, in the beginning it's hard to kinda, you know, get that, get in the gym. But once you get it, you feel amazing. So when you have those goals, it makes you get up and actually put in the work when you don't want to.

George Leith: So you used a plural on goals. One of the things that I've witnessed is we have a tendency to have too many goals. For sure. And then we don't measure them.

Carson Teagarden: Exactly.

George Leith: And there also is this concept of leading and lagging measures, and one of the things that we've used in sales methodology over the last, uh, 10 years that I've been working with sales organizations is if you, if you look at the fitness rings of Apple- They are so simple. And I think that that's where a lot of people get mixed up, is that the goal is, "I'd like to make the scale go down." Yeah. And the two things that you gotta watch is what you put in your body and what you, what you burn or consume. But it's really simple. Sure. And is it true that it's not 50 goals, it's, like, one or two, and then you have more of a chance of having success?

Carson Teagarden: Yeah, I think if you have too many goals, then there's too much going on, you're too confused, and then you can't get... You know, then you're like, "Oh, I don't know what to do, so I'm not doing anything." But if you do focus on those two to three solid goals, and you know exactly what you can do... Like, o- one thing I teach my clients is, ultimately, let's say you wanna lose 50 pounds. Okay, that's a big goal. But that's... Even though it's one big goal of 50 pounds, when you think about it, it's like, that's, like, a long time, whatever. So how can you break that down to what you know exactly what you need to do daily so it's very simple and you're not, like, overwhelmed? 50 pounds, that's gonna take me, you know, maybe six months to a year. Like, that's too long, I'm not doing it. But if you say, "Oh, that's walking every day, eating my protein, hitting the gym," those three simple things, those three little goals, and I do that each day, six months goes by and you lost the 50 pounds and you feel amazing. So it's also about how you break those down so that you can stay in that consistency.

George Leith: And then another item that I think is important for people to understand, it's also what you say no to.

Carson Teagarden: Yeah. That's true.

George Leith: As much as it's what you're doing, it's what you're not doing that leads to success.

Carson Teagarden: That's... That actually is... I think, I think about that, 'cause there's so many things, like, I say no to, but it's just, that's the part of the lifestyle. So I... That is kinda great that you bring that up, because I don't really talk too much about that. 'Cause to me, it's just like, well, of course I don't waste time and party, because I know it's not gonna help my goals. Of course I'm not gonna eat that ice cream, because I know it's not gonna necessarily help my goals. So in my head, I'm psychologically saying no already, but I don't, I, you know, necessarily think about it is the no. So there are definitely things that it's, you can do and enjoy, but it's also gonna affect those goals that you have, too.

George Leith: So as we move into, uh, Evolve Pros and we get deeper, I think we're in the first episodes here, and as you and I are speaking, um, my new book, Evolved, will drop, and that book has the story of how I went from almost 400 pounds to where I am today. That's incredible. Um, and I remember in some of those early times, there were so many starts and stops, and part of the starts and stops was the bullshit story that I was telling myself that I was hurt And, and I find when I talk to other people who are on the same journey where they've lost 50 pounds or 60 pounds or 20 pounds, they, "Yeah, I went to the gym and I hurt myself." And I remember some of those early days where there was enormous pain. Yeah. But I was at the point where I had to do something, or the pain that I was gonna feel was I wasn't gonna be around. Um, do you find that people sometimes give up too, too easily? Like, they have this idea of, "What the hell is that that I'm feeling?" And at the end of the day, what I've learned over time is that it's not even pain. It is your muscle that has been stressed, and now it's growing again, and that's actually so no pain, no gain. But to set the expectation that you're gonna start on this journey of being fit, and you're not going to have a little bit of uncomfortableness, and I learned over the years that it really wasn't pain.

Carson Teagarden: Yeah, no, it's good.

George Leith: So can we talk a little bit about that, and how... what's advice you would give to people so that... Because what the last thing we want is for them to say, "In order to do this, it's gonna be painful." Where do you get to the point where now it's like the pain's worth it?

Carson Teagarden: Right. Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, when you first start working out, obviously there's... you can hurt yourself and hurt your muscle or whatever. But you have that soreness or pain of like, "Oh, like, this is kind of hard." Like, even six months ago, for me, I put on a journey of, like, I'm really not good at running right now. I wanna get in cardio shape I hate it and it hurts, but I knew that I'm gonna set a goal to myself to stay consistent to it to see that what it would do. And that was seven months ago, I've ran every single day, and there's even still today where it's like, "Ah, this is still kinda hard," whatever. But it has got me so much leaner, it has made me feel so much better. So when you know that like, hey, this is hard, I mean, anything in life when you're pushing, you're doing something hard, but you know the results that are coming, it's worth pushing through. Um, so that's one thing that I've seen. And a lot of clients will, you know, come to me and they're like... They were, you know, 3, 380, my one client, and he's like, "I don't know what to do." And, and he's like, "I'm walking, my legs are so sore. This, you know, this is hard." And we... That's why I think having a coach or having someone to help even support you so you feel like you're not on your own can help you be like, "Yes, your legs are sore, let's take a rest day, but tomorrow we get right back at it." It's no, we don't wanna make an excuse. We wanna be smart about our training. If we're super sore and you can't do anything, you obviously wanna take the rest that your body needs, but you still wanna push through because the day that maybe you miss because you're a little tired, those days add up.

George Leith: You know, you know what I say to people that have sore knees 'cause they started walking? Go buy some blueberries, right? Get rid of all the crap in the freezer and get some frozen blueberries, and then you just put those on your knees. But the expectation is your knees are going to be sore. If you start moving and you're tipping the Toledo's at 380 pounds, I, I lived it- your knees are gonna be sore. Put some ice on it, and then get back out there again tomorrow and see if you can walk a little bit further.

Carson Teagarden: That's it. Yeah. And, and that's what literally everyone who, you f- those first two, three months, it's really hard, but once you keep staying consistent, and I see it with every single client, no matter if they're losing weight, gaining weight, once they kinda hit that three, six months, they've got the momentum and they keep it going, and they, and they love and enjoy the process.

George Leith: Is it, you know, the, you know the, uh, diagram online about success? And it's not really a straight line. It's this up, back, forward, sideways mess. That's usually the way that some sort of a fitness journey goes.

Carson Teagarden: There are injuries that can set you back. There are... Life is not an easy, straight line. So, uh, so many people four months in, they're, they get super busy and then they kinda fall off the wagon a little bit, and they maybe gain two or three pounds. But we go, "Hey, you've already seen progress. Let's just get right back to it." And then they, you know, end up going right to where they were and, and even more. So 100%, there's, you know, that two step back, one step forward. But ultimately, the consistency, like we talked about in the beginning, will continue to push you to seeing results.

George Leith: I'm sure today that we could get in and talk about exercises and equipment and everything else, but what I would like to do rather than that is I'd like to talk about how do you stay on the journey? Because I think that what I noticed from my journey, which took probably 15 years to get to where I am today, and I'm still not done yet, but there were these plateaus that happened where I was like, "Oh, I made it." Like, I, I remember 250 pounds was a number. I was like, "If I get to 250, I'm good. And, and then I can go back." Right? And I didn't say it out loud that I could go back, but I went back and I started doing some of the things that led me to the other place. And then, and then I got to 200, and I was like, "Oh, I'm good." And then I'm like, "I get to 180." And then I- 180 came, and then you're still like, "Oh, what the heck is that, and what's this?" And you're... So, you know, how do we stay on the journey and not get to that... And, and again, maybe it's never done. Like, I'm starting to realize that maybe this thing's never done, and maybe that's part of the fun.

Carson Teagarden: Yeah. I think, like, even though I'm still young, I've achieved a lot of my goals, but I still have a lot of goals as well, I do think a long thing is, like, it's like longevity. Like, there's so many 40-year-olds, 50-year-olds that can't walk, they can't move. So not only do I wanna be at, you know, as a young 20-year-old, I know I have a lot of potential doing crazy things, and as I get older, yes, your body wants to get older. But that's when I wanna- be better. Like I, I don't wanna be 40 years old and have all this pain. I wanna like now think longevity, like 80 I wanna be able to run. 90, be able to actually walk and not have someone help me. So I, I think, yes, you can set these big major goals of I'm gonna lose this 100 pounds, and then once you hit it, you still have goals of like, well, I'm still gonna eat cleaner. I, I wanna be able to feel great when I am 30 years from now. So it is thinking about more longevity, and that's why goals are also important because as you grow up, you know... My goals have stayed pretty similar, but w- working with so many different ages, I see, you know, s- people in my, clients in my 70s, their goal is just to be healthy, be neat, pain-free, and not have to have someone take care of them.

George Leith: Right.

Carson Teagarden: So it is, everyone has different goals. That's what's gonna definitely keep you going.

George Leith: Do you find that when you're working with a, with a client, that giving them some role models that they can emulate is, is a way to get them to a successful outcome?

Carson Teagarden: I think so, 100%. Um, I think it is interesting, like my one client who's in his 70s is r- we had this really cool relationship even though, you know, we're 50 50 years apart. But he's like, "You just inspire me every day. Even though I'm this older person and, you know, I have all, you know, this wisdom and I'm 50 years older than you, just seeing you being excited about life and getting up i- inspires me to be excited about life." And sometimes I saw this video of a nine-year-old winning a sprint, you know, doing like a 13 seconds 100 meters, and I sent that to him. Like, "You know, here's just a motivation of what is possible." And so I think having those different models and seeing what is possible or, you know, dreaming big of trying to be something definitely can keep it exciting and motivating.

George Leith: I, I find that, uh, that y- you are in amazing shape and, you know, we were able to spend some time talking about some of the work that you do, and it's intimidating, I will tell you that. Um, but what I've, what I've also found is that- When I'm working with a, a new seller, let's say, and they're like, "Oh, there's the old man Leith," and you know, he's been selling for a long time, um, I, I actually get as much out of coaching that individual as they get out of the coaching that I'm giving them. Is it the same for you?

Carson Teagarden: A- 100%, yeah. I- that's the one reason why I love the coaching, is 'cause I'm able to take something I love and share it with someone so they get healthier, they feel better, and they're always like, "Man, this is just awesome." But the connection that I'm getting from them, especially someone who is, you know, 50 years older than me, they're giving me some wisdom. I'm learning from them. I'm, I'm hearing different stories. And it just becomes this friendship through this one thing that we both connected through. So, 100%.

George Leith: I've noticed that, uh, you know, you're here with my good friend Dennis Yu. Yeah. And you guys got the cameras out, and you've been filming throughout the week. Let's talk a little bit about your role and the work that you're doing, and so that if our audience is interested in talking to Carson, how can they get ahold of you? And let's talk about, about your business in, in this, uh, fitness world.

Carson Teagarden: The business kind of is, is two parts in a way. The first thing is obviously the social media, the filming of the videos. So you know, how do people see what am I doing with my clients, you know? I'm filming and showing that, or just the fun stuff. You know, going out in Las Vegas and doing handstands and enjoying it. And that's the main part of the content, is to show that fitness is fun, but to also maybe inspire and give some people like, "Hey, here's different tips and tricks." And then through that, that's where the coaching business is. People reach out and they're like, "Hey, I see you enjoy fitness. I see you, you know, you're in shape. You're putting in the work every day. You're working with these people. I wanna work out with you as well." So that's where they, you know, then message me in Instagram. You know, I say Home Shred because it's how to get fit from home if you're a busy person. And then we hop on a call, and that's how they're able to, you know, see what's the best coaching program for them so that they can hit their goals, um, working one-on-one with me.

George Leith: So we're, we're here at the Bellagio obviously because of the iconic fountain behind us, and, uh, some people might've been, "Oh, they're in Paris," but no, that's- not the real Eiffel Tower. So we're here in Vegas, Bellagio, iconic fountain, with my very good friend Dennis Yu. And Dennis has dropped 70 pounds under your leadership and coaching, and he speaks very highly of you. You guys have been working together for a period of time. Um, what was that journey like? Because I n- I didn't really... Dennis goes, "That, well, that's a picture of fat Dennis," and, uh, like, we all have that, right? Fat George. That picture's on the book, by the way, if you ever wanna see it. Uh, it's a horrible sight. But I didn't really think that Dennis was fat. Right? Right. Um, and now looking at him and the shape that he's in, but I- it's not even the arms, and it's not even that he's leaner, it's that smile. It's that- His

Carson Teagarden: face, yeah...

George Leith: right? Like, he- His face fat... he looks so confident, and yet he always had that level of intelligence, confidence. He's on telev- you know, all those things. As you went through that journey, what were some of the challenges that you had to get Dennis to where he wanted to be?

Carson Teagarden: I think the biggest thing is gonna be that, you know, his busyness. We've... It's not, we worked for a while, and it wasn't like we worked, like, every day straight. There was, we worked for a few months, and then, "Hey, I'm, I'm busy." But he was still, you know, still checking in and trying to make sure he's good. And then we did a little bit of more work there, and then busy. So the biggest thing was the busyness, but that's where we can't obviously make an excuse because then your health goes out, out the door. Um, and so really it was just knowing that I was, you know, if we weren't talking every single week all the time, sometimes it was months on end, sometimes not as much 'cause of our busyness. But knowing that I was checking in each month, or he could out- reach out if he ever needed a question, gave him that, like, "Hey, I gotta, you know, I don't, I c- don't really wanna work out today, but I know that I have someone like Carson who's gonna check in, and, and we, he knows that my goal is to lose weight." That helped him just to keep going. And so when we would, you know, check in every, every few months and just see kinda what he's doing, he was able to still be losing weight. But the main thing was we gave him a good start. We really trained together, so I showed him workouts. He, helped him with the diet, and he found that good basis that he could just learn from. And that's what the whole coaching is, is if you're busy, if you're, um, you know, if, if you're a father or something or just have a business, my goal is to show you how can you take your whole life, teach you in that coaching program that you can implement for years to come by the little tips.

George Leith: So you said something earlier about working from home, and I, and I, this is the biggest excuse. "Well, I don't have a gym," or, "I don't like going to gym membership." And when we were getting this makeshift studio together here, we're lifting furniture and things like that. And, and I, like, I look at pieces of furniture now when I'm in a hotel going, "I can lift that 150 times, and now I don't even need to go to the gym." Yeah. There really shouldn't be an excuse. You should be able to execute a hell of a workout at home without any equipment.

Carson Teagarden: Literally, if, if your only goal... A lot of my clients come to me, 40 years old, "Hey, I'm busy. I just wanna be healthier, and I need to lose weight." The one client has already lost, I think 60 pounds in like six months just by walking and watching it, you know, what he's eating. Two simple things that you can do no matter how busy you're, you are. Like you're doing work, well, good, take a call and walk. Um, you, you have to eat. Well, okay then just eat some good protein. So that is the main thing, like just being in that active, healthy lifestyle. But if you are trying to build muscle as well, like you, if you have a floor, you can train abs, you can train your legs, you can build, do pushups and, and just, you don't need to, to make that excuse of, "I don't have a gym." Now, being in a gym environment, if you struggle to like, you know, work out at home is always nice.

George Leith: Right.

Carson Teagarden: But that shouldn't be an excuse either.

George Leith: Now, the other piece when we were... I was hoping that you would get there, but you didn't quite get there. Do you hold Dennis accountable?

Carson Teagarden: Yeah, 100%. I mean, the main... If he, if he comes to me, like even this week already, it's like, "Hey, you gotta try this cookie." And I'm like, "You eating the cookie?" I, and I do st- sometimes I do struggle, and that's why it is hard to, like in the coaching, I don't wanna be that guy who's like, "Don't eat that cookie," you know, "That's horrible for you." But, but really that's, you know, how I've been... There's times where I, I will eat that cookie throughout my fitness journey, but I know obviously I'm gonna maybe walk more or whatever. Um, but I've learned to say, "Is that cookie even worth it?" Like 200 calories, to burn that takes me two, three miles of running, so is just eating that one cookie worth it to burn that off? And then, you know, so much time. So that's the goal with the clients is to m- make them more think, "Oh, Carson wouldn't eat that cookie, and he probably would say something, and that's true, I probably shouldn't eat it." And, and that's where I've had him and so many other people be like, they'll send me a picture, "I'm not eating it, but I was tempted." And, and that's what I think is cool, is where they slowly change their mindset of like, "It tastes good, but it's not worth it for my fitness and health.

George Leith: I've found that it's enormously empowering when you walk by the pizza, and you used to eat the entire pizza- and you say, "I'm making the decision not to eat that pizza." As much as it's empowering to go for the workout that you probably didn't wanna do that day, and then you get done and you're like, "Oh, I'm glad I did the workout," because, you know, then you would've felt guilty. But the reason I bring up accountability is I, I like to give credit where credit is due. There, there is no way that I'd get to where I am today without my wife, because she's my ultimate accountability coach. And a lot of times I don't like what she says to me, and I've had to learn how to not give the resting bitch face that I have that I'm upset about it, because at least she wants me to be around. Yeah. You know, take care of yourself and be around. But I, I do believe, why I wanna bring this up is I think we need that accountability, because no human being has that rigid of a discipline. There might be the odd one, I think my wife might be one of them and maybe you're one of them too, that does have that discipline, but I don't. So having somebody that can keep you on track is a lot of times the difference between getting to the goal and not getting to the goal. You can't do it all yourself, I guess is the point.

Carson Teagarden: Exactly why not only do I love the coaching, but what the coaching is, you see it so much, people come to me and they're, and all they need is just checking in with me weekly and being, knowing that I'm, like I say, in their corner. If they need something, I'm there, but I'm also keeping them accountable and checking in, and that keeps them going. And so many people, like my one client I always think of all the time, he went almost 70 pounds down as well. He went from 360, now he's in the, the 200s. And I didn't do anything special, he didn't do anything fancy. I just said, "Here's what you need to do," and he stuck to it every, every day, and he knows that I'm watching him type thing. And he checks in like, "Hey, here's what I did today." Every day he sends me what he's walking, what he's doing, and he never had that accountability before and, and he's lost that weight. So it's just crazy to see, like knowing that I'm there and he's excited to share with me his wins and, and maybe his struggles helps him just keep going every day.

George Leith: So I will say to the people that are listening out there, if you are not prepared to share that you're on a journey, I don't necessarily know how serious you are about it. Because the minute that you start to share it with other people, now they're a part of it and they're going to be having a look to see if you're going to accomplish. And I think that's where a lot of people fall down. They're like, "I don't wanna tell people I wanna be 200 pounds because what if I fail?" And they're gonna- Yeah. But by having that view, now you have somebody that's accountable.

Carson Teagarden: Yeah. And that's something for me growing up, I think this is something good for people to see. Like, they see me every day running at night, no matter if it's super early morning or late at night, I get the run in. I do my workouts. I don't eat that cookie. I, I hit my protein goal. Like, and sometimes I'm thinking like, I was always a pretty disciplined person from when I grew up. It was like, if it was basketball, I would do everything I can to be the best I can. But Also, it, I had accountability without even recognizing. For example, basketball, I was doing four hours a day playing basketball from second grade till high school, but it was because I knew that people in school are gonna be watching me. People at the, you know, at the game are gonna be watching me, and so that was my accountability without thinking about it. Same with my fitness, is I enjoy doing it, I love doing it, but I got followers that watch me every day. I don't think about it, but I'm posting to my followers. People obviously know that I'm a fitness guy, and I have to kinda do the right thing, so that all keeps me accountable without necessarily thinking it. But everyone, it kinda seems like everyone's watching 'cause you're the fitness guy, so you're gonna... Are you gonna get your workout in? Are you gonna eat that cookie? Um, and so those are accountable as well. If no one knew, I'd do it. You know, if I did eat that cookie yesterday, no one's gonna know 'cause they don't know. But since I am sharing that, I do have that accountability as well.

George Leith: I think there's a generational component in there because there's that old adage of those who can't do, teach. But I do believe in 2026, you're not going to get anybody buying in if they don't believe that you've been a part of that journey.

Carson Teagarden: 100%, yeah. That's where sharing it every day comes in, but that keeps me accountable because I'm trying to show people, "Here's, here's what I know and here's what I do, and I wanna teach you that." But it keeps me to keep going.

George Leith: What's next for you is we, like I- I'm getting a lot of my training from an avatar on X that I, I follow, and I watch the exercise, and it's all animated and, and, um- Yeah, for sure so are you, what are you doing with your career and online learning and things like that? Because I know your clients are all over the world that work with you. Yeah.

Carson Teagarden: Yeah, so that's, that's the coolest thing is you could, I could train clients from different states, countries. Um, and so the goal is, especially with this, you know, anyone can hire, you know, so many different online coaches po- posting social media. So the main thing is to, to really kinda set myself apart through, you know, my, who I am, um, the one-on-one coaching and just being able to build that connection and personality I think is, you know, something that, you know, you can obviously go to ChatGPT and get workouts, meal guides, all that type of stuff. But having that, like we said, accountability, and that person to check in and just build that connection, that's kinda the goal that I think really helps a lot of people see results. So it's just building and scaling beyond that, um, for more personality and, and more in-depth workouts, and just helping people see the best results that they can.

George Leith: Well, I really appreciate the last few days getting to know you here in, uh, beautiful Las Vegas, and I always appreciate Dennis introducing me to- folks that have had an impact on his life. And, uh, wish you safe travels, and thanks for joining us on the Evolve Pros podcast.

Carson Teagarden: Yes, thank you very much. And s- I'm super proud of you for your journey, because I know it's not easy, but that's so cool.

George Leith: I really appreciate that. Thank you.

Carson Teagarden: All right.

George Leith: Thanks for joining us, the Evolve Pros podcast. I'm George Leith. I'll see you when I see you. That's the conversation for this week. If it moves something, share it with someone who needs it. I'm George Leith. I'll see you when I see you